LilRedWagonIN

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 7:26:20 AM
Maybe the White House can ship a big screen to Alaska this week and duplicate Putin.
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bston

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 10:20:20 PM
They've got to jump on the band wagon too!
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MAC48

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 9:54:06 PM
This is the same logistical marketing problem faced in the 1970s with the initial development of the crude oil fields from the North Slope, shipped to Valdez via the Trans Alaska Pipeline and then shipped by oil tankers to refineries for conversion into consumer products. This was a very expensive partnership effort by several giant multinational oil companies since no one company had the financial resources to finance getting North Slope crude to market by themselves considering the perceived risk of failure involved with the project, the massive cost and the massive environmental group opposition to the project.
The wish of the State of Alaska government to have the same level of effort with basically the same cost and risk applied to a project to get their North Slope conventional natural gas deposits to market has never been economically justified since the market value of natural gas, whether conventional or from shale formations, has not been able to sustain a market price high enough to recover the cost of the project with adequate profits to reward the investors and satisfy the tax burden that is sure to be imposed by the state government.
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CVA19

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Salem
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 7:56:41 PM
Anyone notice that the "greenies" are no-where to be found protesting around Russian drilling or litigating in Russian courts. I wonder if that's because they know that they would wind up incarcerated in Russian prisons.
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lesndave

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Texas
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 7:18:43 PM
Ok
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TableTalk

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 5:57:30 PM
This is why gov't IS the problem.
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joekool1

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 4:20:35 PM
obama is probably funding this, secretlu
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playtimeCLE

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 4:14:04 PM
Russia has to have something to sell to the world.
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FluffyDogAttack

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 3:33:02 PM
This is where Obama will ride in on his Green Horse and save the day with his new Energy Proposal.
Nope, not Solar energy...it's POLAR energy! That's when your economy is so frozen from President Zero temps, you don't need any energy.
[Edited by: FluffyDogAttack at 10/29/2012 6:34:23 PM EST]
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nsdp

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 10:31:52 AM
Mitt4Prez these natural gas reserves are just east of the Ural Mountains about 5-6 time zones away from Asia. NorthWEST Siberia. The equal here in the US would be a pipeline from NYC to Honolulu. This gas will go to Europe not Asia.
Abraham Lincoln Quotes Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
[Edited by: nsdp at 10/29/2012 1:32:34 PM EST]
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nsdp

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 10:27:52 AM
henryeOH, the same problems that stopped them under Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, HW Bush, Clinton, and W Bush. Lousy economics. Due to primarily NG quality.
North Slope NG is 13% CO2 which will have to be removed and reinjected into the oil formations to maintain pressure so the oil will continue to flow. Add to that cots of imported special steel pipe from Korea, LNG terminals and sulfur removal plants and you would need $16 natural gas here int eh us to break even ont eh project.
Abraham Lincoln Quotes Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
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DeepWaterTitan

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 9:31:51 AM
We do need to start drilling for our own oil.
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LarksNY

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Albany
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:58:57 AM
Got to keep the fires burning at the distilleries and keep the vodka flowing comrade!
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mitt4prez

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Tacoma
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:55:27 AM
Why are Asian customers willing to pay a premium for North American gas? Because they see said supply as being more reliable, not subject to the whims of Putin and his foul gang. Will this register with the Green fanatics or The Won? Nope. The Won steals his campaign commercials from Putin, so why not take all your ideas from Russia?
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WILDCAT112

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:28:22 AM
NO MORE POTATOES
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BudsterMO

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Kansas City
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:24:43 AM
I am sure glad I don't live in Russia.
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LongPlay

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Albuquerque
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:20:52 AM
We desperately need to eliminate Obama and get our own petroleum production going to provide jobs and dollars to the US!
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mikerroy

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Albuquerque
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:18:52 AM
Ok
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Asbury09

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:17:02 AM
part of the administration's plan to destroy
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LoadToad

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:16:53 AM
OK
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Topless2012

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:16:09 AM
Doing what we should be.
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trekmanKY

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:15:57 AM
Bad news!
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dlzastera

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:15:31 AM
Watch the movie Obama's america 2016.
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leemun

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Utah
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:14:49 AM
Thanks go out to the useful idiots in Washington.
--Vladimir
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henryeOH

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Akron
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:13:14 AM
OK whats stopping the Alaskans, Obummer
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bullseye100

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:13:06 AM
Don't we still hate Russia?
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elhefe2003

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New Orleans
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:13:01 AM
ok
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matthwbar

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:12:27 AM
Damn Ruskies..!
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1stClicker

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Texas
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:12:25 AM
Right on LtRTH!
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Ready Eddie

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:10:14 AM
whatever.
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johton

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:09:52 AM
somthing not right
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LtRTH

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:09:40 AM
This is what happens when you don't have an administration full of greenies. You get results.
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CptnCanada

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Saskatoon
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:09:35 AM
Why didn't the greens go over there and protest and form human shields in front of the bulldozers?... OH right they would have been shot over there..
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4cmcwireless

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:08:39 AM
Hmmm, something smells bad....
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frugalking

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:08:35 AM
We need to harvest as much of our energy as possible to be energy independent. We should not let the Russians put us to shame. Drill baby drill.
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Car54BC08

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:08:26 AM
This should help insure the price of natural gas stays down
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FrankTA2

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New York
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:08:18 AM
Oh well.
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lightbulbman2008

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Worcester
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:07:29 AM
something fishy...
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Thor51

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London
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:07:07 AM
So, of all those who are dissing the Administration for holding back on new drilling in the Arctic, how many own stocks in gas-producing companies? Well, the reality is that most are worth maybe 50% of what they were worth just a couple of years ago! And why, it is because there is TOO MUCH natural gas, which has forced the price down so low it is NOT ECONOMICAL to drill more wells.
So the smart thing to do is LET the Russians sell their gas at rock-bottom prices, and then when the price rises as THEIR wells thin out, that would be the time to tap the Arctic here in North America.
Ever wonder why the pipelines can't find funding to build a pipeline to bring those gas fields to market? It is NOT the Obama Admin ... it is ECONOMICS!!
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Don20

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:06:38 AM
Bovanenkovo, one of the world's three largest conventional natural gas fields, holds an estimated 177 trillion cubic feet of gas. Its official opening featured a giant video monitor that beamed in an address from Russia President Vladimir Putin.
What are the Russians doing in Alaska to start with.???? Last time I checked Alaska belongs to the United States. The gas should belong to U.S. Give them a few rubles for their effort thats it in nut shell....
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Somefatkid

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:06:27 AM
Chinto, the EPA has no jurisdiction in Russia.
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repeater1

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Topeka
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:06:22 AM
Interesting.
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Barfood

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:04:28 AM
Why not leave it in the ground for now, I'm sure future humans will be able to use this (at an even higher value than today)!
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goalie1950

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:03:47 AM
The good thing is, the US doesn't need any of this natural gas from Russia. It has plenty of its own that it doesn't know what to do with.
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Bigtex09

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:01:43 AM
November 2012! let's change our stupidity when it comes to energy!
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Double_Golden

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San Francisco
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:01:10 AM
will gas prices come down again? I saw an article couple days early said gas price is lower about 6%...
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Soglaos

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:01:04 AM
ok
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Taurus1

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:00:35 AM
Are we having another "race" with the Russians?
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vcsuksu21

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:00:20 AM
Should have been tax money for us. Now our govt will go back to borrowing to pay entitlements
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Chinto12

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:00:00 AM
I hope Russia got the proper permits from the EPA.
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